Most guys that travel around the world have come across bar that had girls just sitting around waiting for some one to come in and buy them drinks for the night. You’ll find clubs like this all over the place and often they are grouped together in the same areas.

Your first time to buy-me-drink will be a learning experience for you and can be a costly one too.060307-marissas_philipino_pub-01f
The way the B-m-D bars work is they have girls either freelancers or girls they hire to get the guys to by them drinks. In most cases the girls get half of the price of the drinks they are able to get the guy to buy her. If he doesn’t buy her any drinks she earns nothing even off his drinks.

Ladies drinks prices are higher then the guys a beer can cost you from 10 to 30 dollars depending on the club, the girl and how willing you are to pay. Since the B-m-D girl is out to make money she will start off by asking for the highest price she can and work her way down in price if you don’t want to pay. But keep in mind that these girls are pretty good at the game so some may start low and work their up on price.

How do they work their way up from a 10 dollar beer to 50 dollar drink? Easy, first off she will treat you like a king and be your girl friend for a long as you are buying, she will give you a world of fun right there in the bar, dance sexy for you, give you a lap dance and reach down your pants if she is daring enough. She’ll let you rub your hands on her where ever you want and tell you after work she can leave with you.

060807-ten-gu-01cLike anything else a lot of different factors play into the equation on if she really goes with you or not. Which I’ll talk about, first off if she is only working to get your money, which is her job, she’ll ditch you at the end of the night and that will that. Second does she like you or not and how much did you spend. Some girls really do like the guys they meet in the bar and just want to have some fun with them for a night or two. Other girls go only for the money, so after you have spent a small future in the bar getting her and her friends drinks all night now she also wants you to pay her for her services. So I am talking about 3 levels of working girls in the bars.

Business only in the club, have your fun, spend your cash and go home alone.
Have fun in the bar, she like you and the two of you leave after work.
You spend a lot in the bar then spend a lot more for her time after work.

Why do the girls only go after the bar closes and not before, several reasons. First they are on contract with the bar and have to make their night quota which is on average 15 drinks per night or $150.00. If the girl is contracted though the bar and is recruited to come and work there that is the only place she can work to start with, second she needs to pay back the owner for her plane fare over, plus her room. So right off the top she arrives owing anywhere from S$1,200 to S$3,000 plus her rent. Not to mention she also has to get her own food and other needed items.

Here is the break down on the girls. 60% don’t make enough to pay back the owner the load they took and have to exit Singapore for a few days then return and keep working, they can leave about 4 or 5 times before immigrations tells them no more and they have to leave. Most can get a 30 day visitor pass if they are coming form the Philippines which is where 90% of the B-m-D girls come from. 20% make just enough to pay back the loan and leave and the other 20% leave with money in their pockets because they when out with guys for the money.

110506-nashville_karaoke_pub-apple-05Most of the girls are single, single mother while about 30% are married and came to Singapore to earn some money to support the family. There are cases where the husband had his wife recruited so she could come to Singapore and earn some cash.

So who sleep around the most, hard to say? It depends on the girls and why they are here, did they know what the job entailed before getting to Singapore, so know, many don’t but because of the load they owe and with the owner holding their passports what can they do but try to work off the load anyway they can. Which means letting the guys feel a lot more, feeling more of the guys and even going home with the customers.

If a girl just sits and talks holding hands over time the guys wants more and she is not will to provide then other are found that will. So the guys move on to a bar that has a more action in it. After all if a person is going to spend their cash for the company of a girl he is going to want his moneys worth. While some club owners do not allow wild stuff to happen other do and it can get pretty wild in some bar. Many places have been busted by the police due to activities going on in the booth in the back in the corner in the dark and some time right at the bar in plain view of everyone. This is your $50 drink service charge. 5 shots of tequila and stand by for the time of your life.

When you enter the pub depending on the style of the club you may sit there for a few minutes before they approach you mostly in working in pairs so you have some what of a choice. Both will try for drinks so expect it to happen. Over time other girls will stop by once they see you buying drinks to try to move in on you and get some action. These girls are not shy and the competition can get very high between the girls for your attention, meaning your money. If one girls hugging you the other girl will kiss you. If one lets you feel her breast the other will let you put your hand up her skirt. One will show you’re her tits and the other will show you, “look no G-string”.

While the times in clubs can be a lot of fun it will cost you if you don’t keep your head about you. It is real easy to fall in to the B-m-D girl trap where you find your self feeling for this girl. Ok it can and does happen. But you need to understand what it involves. To start with once she has your phone number she will call or SMS you all the time asking when are you coming by to see her again and how much she misses you, (you money). Then she needs a phone card to call home because she has no money, then she needs money for food or to renew her ticket because she may have to leave other wise and she likes it here so much. She will tell you it is just a load but if you give it, kiss that money good bye. If you take her has a girl friend be ready to see her with other guys she still needs to work in the bar from 7pm until up to 3am. That is unless you paid off her load and the owner freed her from the contract which chances are he hasn’t. So unless you plan to fully support her for her time in Singapore (or wherever in the world you meet your bar honey-ko = sweetheart) while she is working to get the 15 drinks a night you can get your feeling hurt really fast.

It all about the money, ok. If some other guys comes along and is willing to spend and give more your out! It is just that simple. When it comes to B-m-D girls’ money is the main determining factor on all her decisions, that is why she came in the first place and that is what she wants to go home with. Anything extra is just that, like some Expat who what to take her for a wife. I have friends that have married bars girls form the Philippines and everything worked out in some cases but most only lasted a few years, they got their Green Card in the states and left the guy after that.

All of them have a story to tell you too. Believe halve of what you hear and you will be doing ok. Most do come from a family with some kind of problem, why is working in the bar will to me that is not my concern. I’m no better, hell I’m there doing the buying so who’s the whore? The one selling or the one buying?

The girls come from all over the Philippines and all speak English well. For many this could be their first time overseas while others may be well traveled. Some have working in bars at strip clubs where the nightly bar-fine was a regular event. These are your more seasoned girls, they know the game better then all the others girls and can suck your money dry in no time given the chance.  These girls can drink all night and keep going. That is because you don’t see that in the bathroom toughing-up. The time in the clubs is wild with them too, your hands are free to roam where they want as are hers so anything can happen but remember all for a price.

So what is the age rage of these girls, well I have meet girls as young as 19 and as old 38. so was she really 19, could be and some I do believe are that young. From what I found the girls in the 22 to 26 age rage are the most fun in the clubs while the older one are better for after work activities as a general rule. Some may disagree but this is my opinion.

My experiences with B-m-D girls as I have said goes back to 1980 when I was in Guam and started to hit the many clubs that where there then and still are. From there I moved on to the Okinawa, Yakota Japan, Long Beach California, San Diego Calif., Rota Spain – not many b-m-d places but you know me and I found them and I’ll even say Diego Garcia only because I got a lot of drinks and never got anything for the girls there, I didn’t include the Philippines or Thailand because, well if you can get laid there in a bar you need some real help, and well I didn’t need to buy drinks there all night to get girls unless I wanted to take a break from all the fun and just buy drinks for the night. You know even God has to rest on the 7th day and so did I some times.

Part 2

Ok let’s talk about Buy-me-Drink-bars

My first time in a buy me drink bar was back in 1980 in Guam. Guam at that time had over 100,000 Marines, Anderson Air Force Base, NavCams, Naval Station, Camp Covington (Seabee Battalion), NavMag, Naval Air Station and a submarine Squadron a long with several other smaller military commands.

The Vietnam War was over and Guam had been used a staging area for the people fleeing the country with some staying in Guam to work. Well just like any where in the world where you have 10,000 of thousands of single military men you are going to find bars with girls in them. The main road in Guam with the Bars was Marine Drive. From the start to end was a distance of about a mile or a bit more. Along the Drive was mostly bars and massage parlors. The bars had girls from Thailand, Taiwan, Philippines, Vietnam and America, while most of the massage parlors had girls from Korea or the US.

The many of the bar where strip clubs with the BmD girls working the crowds of horny young men. When I arrived I was 21 years old it was my first time over seas where I had the change to hit the bar and at this point I still was not much of a drinker. The clubs where all nude dancers (another first for me) and the exposure to the BmD girls well that was an eye opener for me.

My first run in with a girl was in club YoBo. Her name was Samjit (Sam) from Taiwan, she looked about 20 or 22 but I found later she was really 33. That night Dec 15 1980 she managed to talk me out of all my money with the promise of great sex after she got off work at 2am. So during this time I we were all over each other with hands going all over her. I was buying 10oz bottles of champagne for US$35.00 and her beers were $10.00 while mine were only $2.00.

At 1.45am she left the table to change and at 2:15am the bouncer kicked me and my buddy out telling us that the girls had left over ½ an hour ago. This is when I cam to realize the job of a buy-me-drink girl. At first, oh yeah I mad as hell. But after I thought about it no one made me do it, so I could only blame my self for falling for the line she feed me. So the next time I saw her I got her a drink again but I would only take with me $12.00 each time, $2.00 to get me a beer (which I would drink all night / 7 to 2am) and $10 to get her one drink. We became friends and yes one night she gave it up after about a month and a half. So my last months in Guam were pretty good.

So this club is like the First Level of the BmD bars. Just touching with close one and light kissing. All the girls want is your money and nothing else. No dancing or anything else. This will include bartenders where you can buy them drinks while they are working.

Level two clubs. The girls dance on stage or at your table and you can buy them drinks between dance sets. Light petting with cloths on but you can rub tits and ass here. She may even stroke you though your pants.

Level Three clubs: When you walk in the girls are on you like stink-on-shit. Sexy Lap dancing, you can feel skin in most places and get flashed too.

Level Four Clubs: The meat factories, really nasty dancing, hand jobs, and ice creams offered, can even get laid in club. Feel what you want when you want and as long as you want.

Level Five clubs: No dancing, all action happens in the booths with the high backs as you and new friend sit in the dark and get to know each other better, blow jobs, tits sucking everything happens here.

With each different level cost is going to rise. The more you are will to pay the more you get that goes with out saying. You have to pay to play in these bars.

Easy to spend $200 and not do shit with in a short time. Always tell her what price drink you will buy and ALWAYS check the bill. Don’t tip either. Some drinks can run you $30.00 in the popular clubs and then you have the $50.00 special. 20 bucks is about the average but for a shot, $200 can go really fast and you haven’t seen shit yet.

The girls have a quota to make each night just so you know. It can range between 10 and 15 depending on the bar. So to make any money they need to push the buying them the drinks.

Want to win some hearts of the buy-me-drink girls?

1. Don’t be cheap but at the same time be smart
2. Offer drinks before they ask. (The First drink is called the “Luck drink” – A starter for a good night)
3. Stick with one girl in one bar, they all know each other some how.
4. Buy the food like pizza and have it delivered to the bar so her friends can share in too. the friends will say “what a nice guy you are”.
5. Have fun but don’t rush the sex part to fast. She knows you want to sleep with her!
6. Listen to her story about home (see Rule #3 below)
7. Don’t bullshit her, if your married tell her you are.
8. If you do bullshit her, remember your BS it will come up again, so be prepared to get the same answer.

Rule of the game

1. If you plan to go keep in mind that any money you have you, you don’t plan to leave with so when it is all gone you have no one to blame but your self.

2. Understand what the girl’s job is, to get your money!

3. Believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear.

4. Don’t feel sorry for anyone, these girls make more then you do in many cases.

5. If you make one your girl friend, remember it is just business not personal, she’ll still be leaving with you at the end of the night no matter she was doing with the other 20 guys that night.

6. If you loan someone money, forget about it, you’ll never see it again. You’d be better off trying to working it off in trade. Some for your green for some of her pink, good luck either way!

7. If you go, go big or stay home.

8. They are not around long, most of them so its, “here to day and gone tomorrow “.

9. Many will not tell you exactly where they live, management rules.

And last but not least

The big number 10 – Sometimes you just get damn lucky and she goes home with you.

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Buy me Drink bars can be found all around the world. While the setup may be different the idea is the same and that is to part you from your money by what ever means it takes. These places are born sucker traps for the guys and we all know it and it seams us guys don’t really care either.

Your first time in a BmD bar can be one you’ll never forget or one you will always regret. But either way we all return sooner or later for another go at it, why? Well there are several reasons for this that I can see. But before we get to that lets looks the different kinds of places.

Your local bar: in some bars around your town you may be able to drink with the female bartenders that are working there. Usually these girls are in very sexy dresses, mini skirts or tight fitting jeans and heels to be as attractive as they can be. They will talk to you and be nice to you and show you the attention you are seeking. They will tell you they are available to go out for lunches and maybe some shopping before they have to report for work. Most of the time the girls have to stay behind the bar and party while they drink all the drinks you offer them. But come closing time they have to head out on there own.

The other kind are the places where the girls work in the crowd, these get more wild since you can sit with the girl and get more personal with her. Drinks in this kind of place will cost you up to 4 to 5 times what your drinks cost. Depending on the club rules will depend on just how hot things can get between the two of you.

In each of these bars the guys are buying drinks to get the girl as drink as he can so hopefully she get so shit faced she’ll agree to go with him. Well the funny part of this is the girls do this every night and many can drink the guys under the table. Oh they will act like they are drink until 15 minutes before closing and then she is a sober and the door man who has been drinking water all night.

Border towns: places like San Diego and El Paso (both of which I have been in) in there bars the action can move to the next level if you are sitting with a Mexican girl who crossed the border to earn a few extra bucks. In these place it can go from a few drinks and quit talk to doing shots of tequila and getting a blow job under the table. Some of the girls will go home with your with out extra cost.

US Territories: Guam (another place I have been) I found both kinds of bar in Guam. But there a large number of the BmD girls are the strip dancer working in the bars there. So here you have girls from states and Asia dancing 6 inches from your face nude and then she is sitting next to you, well the drinks show up pretty quits in that situation and at $20 bucks a beer or $50 for 16 once of Champaign. Along with the dancer you have the non-dancer there doing the same job and they will promise you everything under the sun until closing time when you can’t find them because they left 15 minutes before closing and left you there wonder what just happen.

Asia: This has to be to land where BmD bars started in my book. The girls here have it down to a science on how to get your money quickly. Even at a young age of 18 or 19 there know how it works. The action is hot and heavy in most place just about anything you want can happen right there in bar.

Why go? (back)

If you to go some place where no matter what you like you will be treated like a king. You will be surrounded by great looking young girls that will be all over you and telling you everything you want to hear. For those girls you meet before you are like a boy friend returning from a distance land after many month, even if it was just last night that you were there.

There is always the chance that one night she will go home with you. This is of course them main reason to keep retuning and see the same girl. It is just a matter of time before your number comes up if you can afford to hang in there. Now some guys in the BmD have great luck with the girls and take girls out all the time, wish it was me but its not!

Some return just because the bars are fun to go to. While the cost can get high it is still a great time and can be considered “clean fun”. It’s a nice change from the every day life we all live and something that will, for a while, leave a smile on your face.

Some people don’t want to go to regular bars where you just sit around and drink. At least in the BmD bar you can drink, have fun and make a lot of new friends and as a added bonus get to feel some skin and swap some spit. Being in a bar like with you never know what can happen and who it can happen with.

In conclusion:

For those that visit these bars regularly they know the game and the rules that apply in the different bars and how the girls operate. Though trail and error they learn but the girls will always have the upper hand in this game and we know that. Knowing when to cut your losses and move to a different girl or bar is the key. Knowing when to say enough is enough and stopping from buying more drinks can be hard some time due to the “maybe tonight” dream but you have to keep your wits about you when in these bars.

I tell everyone, “believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear and you may be ok”, it’s only a guide line but one I hope helps out from my experiences in the land of Buy-me-Girls.

Reader's Comments

  1. bond | April 21st, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    My friend if you like a gal you could always buy her out,you know these gals are merely making a living and supporting loved ones back home.Its for a good cause and if you do not have the budget to spend on them,then i feel you should just shut up,stay at home with a six pack and a packet of soap and do it to yourself.Why get in to matter of their credit etc when you are not ready to help them. Be a good samatarian for once!

  2. warren | April 22nd, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    OK language is getting a bit better, and I’ll tell you this i have supported more of these girls I really care to think about so I have don’t my share. And what credit are you talking about anyway i talked about?? WTF!! If you are going blast me ok I candeal with that but at least be an adult and sign your real name other wise who is the one talking shit here?

    Have a nice day :)

  3. bond | April 23rd, 2009 at 11:18 am

    They cal me Bond everywhere,ask the pub operators around,Wel when Im referring to the credit matters,iwas talking about the monies owed by them to their agents which you mentioned,I dont think its a fair remark to make,being a pub hopper and a businessman,there are always risks and monies involved in bringing foreign talents in,Speaking to pub opeators a lot of them tel me of problems and monies lost if the talent is refused entry to Spore etc. So lets be on the fair side,yes they do make a bit if the talent finishes her credits to them,but what about timies when they are refused entries or go missing,or taken back by the Police,no body symphatise with the owners who have to cry to themselves,Now as you have mentioned you have helped many of them,thats good, thier families wil all be thankful of that but it should be in good faith and not taken back against them like mentioning people to be wary of their tactics of harrasement,it doesnt sound like help to me anymore but more like revenge for having failed you in some aspects or other. Forgive and Forget my friend is the though of the day here.

  4. warren | April 23rd, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    OK I see where you are talking now. This subject is a sore one with me so i have to let it go. There are subjects i dont cover in detail or voice my opinion on and touched on this one becasue some people dont know what they are getting into when they come here for the first time, and that just isnt rigth in my book.

  5. bond | April 23rd, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    wel its isnt right in your book,thats fine,but my friend the people who go to pubs for women and wine are no angels as well,they leave thier loved ones at homes,wife and kids and indulge in adultery,immoral sex etc. as wel. They pay drinks for the gals with an ulterior motive as wel i.e.to bring her to bed. If they succeed they are happy,if they dont then they cry foul and claim its not fair,in the first place they definitely know what they are getting in to when they step in to a pub full of gals,and if they are truly innocent they would just walk out,I think its totally a fair game here with the best man win scenario and for the loser dont feel sore,its not your line cause u dont have enough,just go back to your family and loved ones and do beter things in life.

  6. Zeeshan Ghayur | April 26th, 2009 at 5:53 am

    The BmD game is as simple as follows:

    You buy a beer for yourself and it costs around S$5-S$10.

    However if you buy a drink for the BmD girl then the count is:

    S$5-S$10 (The normal drink charge) + S$5-S$10 (Middlemen charges) + S$5-S$10 (Bar charges) & then + S$5-S$10 (Girl earning).

    If you’re happy with the above; go to the BmD bars/pubs/discos otherwise go to regular places…

  7. Ram | May 4th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    This is very good Site. Warren has worked very hard to give more accurate details. I have very good expriance with BMD girls. What warren says is accurate and in addition , i want to give the following and hopefully warrent will in his website and provide good experiance to the peoples.

    - BMD girls..As Warren says…they are here for money..Even If we pay moeny..they respect you(money)..if you stop spending money..she stops everything..even if you are ready give her good life or any means..no use..they do not follow any culture or want to change..no way it is impossible and you will loose money…

    Better like Warren says..it is a game..it is fun..pay for what do you get and do not be too much sensitive or sympathy …it will not workout and you will loose all moeny..

    Just be cautious that do not loose all your money and be careful…with your savings..

    tx
    Ram

  8. emem | May 15th, 2009 at 5:33 am

    To put my 2 cents in, many of us support lots of these girls / bars / agents. I know warren and he certainly is the last one to advocate not going.

    I think the main thing is knowing what you get into with the information above, unless you want to use the basics above, to make sure you havent shouted drinks for the whole bar and get stuck with thousands of dollars (and i have seen it). Most of all enjoy the experience a little wiser than you were before you read this page.
    I dont live in Singapore, but the girls know me and the jungle drums work overtime when im in town………for me its all about a good bar, great girls and good attitude where you are not forced :)to spend more than you can afford.

    Good advice for the newbies

  9. Jetison | June 19th, 2009 at 2:35 am

    Your blog is awsome. I have been to Singapore for business and stayed at the Mariott without even knowing what goes on. The company in Singapore booked the room for me. I didnt waste any time with dating sites or bars, right to the meat. Awsome. I love f&*%$g, this was heaven. Usually I have to go on the dating sites and fine married woman who aren’t getting any dick at home, so I fix them up. Its my contribution to unhappy married woman. The info on the clubs is good stuff. I just walked up to a real prtty one , asked how much, she said 150, I said your crazy, lets do it for 80 and off we went. I think i paid to much. She was petite and awsome, I walked around with her hanging off my organ, never done that before!!Thanks for the site its very good read.

  10. tuj | June 21st, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    ur just bitter homs.. i know u fell in love with 1 of them, and the hooker broke ur heart.. so sad…

    no. 1 rule!

    do not fall in love unless u know all of the consequenses, and u r willing feel `em `ol,

    ouch!

  11. We@sel | June 25th, 2009 at 9:07 am

    Dudes y’all should just bug out of Warren’s life ! If ya got nothing nice to say , don’t say it ! If you have something relevant to the above Topic - (BMD) then comment on that. Please don’t comment and abuse this guy man. I bet y’all have your own issues too . So do i .

  12. marvin | August 24th, 2009 at 10:03 am

    Guys.. fuck off..
    warren is sharing his opinion. Whether you like it or not, thats your fucking problem. He is sharing with the guys what he knows. You could share your opinion too but dont abuse him. We dont come into this website to read your fucking abuses on a guy. And yeah.. Warren.. a big thank you. In Singapore now and your site is educating me :-)

  13. Jack | September 2nd, 2009 at 3:32 am

    Want to win some hearts of the buy-me-drink girls?
    1. Don’t be cheap but at the same time be smart
    ………I am not going for job interview
    2. Offer drinks before they ask. (The First drink is called the “Luck drink” – A starter for a good night)
    ……..Or they want lucky draw
    3. Stick with one girl in one bar, they all know each other some how.
    …….If she is with some other customer
    4. Buy the food like pizza and have it delivered to the bar so her friends can share in too. The friends will say “what a nice guy you are”.
    ……..Why like pizza what about hot dog sandwich
    5. Have fun but don’t rush the sex part to fast. She knows you want to sleep with her!
    …….I am not planning to have sex in bar
    6. Listen to her story about home (see Rule #3 below)
    ……..And make their fun in WTF
    7. Don’t bullshit her, if your married tell her you are.
    ……..I am not going for oath ceremony
    8. If you do bullshit her, remember your BS it will come up again, so be prepared to get the same answer.
    ………After so many B S, I do not have any more BS. May be next time!
    Come on have fun do not be so serious, there are so many problems in life & in the world.

  14. warren | September 4th, 2009 at 9:07 am

    Thanks for the comments both good and bad!
    I have been around BmD girls since 1980 so yeah I had my time with them but none every broke my heart without me knowing it or seeing it coming, all part of the game and I know that. What people fail to know is my background when dealing with these ladies. So when some one talks ill of me it is only their lack of knowledge about me and what I seen, heard and yes DONE! Been there, done that and went back for more.

  15. Ram | September 4th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    I have been living in Singapore past 5 years. I have used more experiance than any one with BMD Girls. My Experiance is …

    you can trust ,do best to Pros…but never ever trust or be sympathy to BMD girls….Just one rule..they are here for money..you are not running any any charity trust…pay and get what is eqivalent on it…Are we going to marry these girls..? why do we sincere to them? What is reason that we should buy such expensive drink to them …need to have to be sincere..or choose one only girl !!!not required.. it is just time pass…that all and not life…!!

    In singpore…have seen that peoples are working in the road building…constrcition site..hotels..food courts….etc..they get SGD 600 per month only…but they work ethically…and with in the law…But these girls are just 20 to 30 age….some time..husbands also sends their wife to here..They wanted to earn more money in short cut..so we no need to have any sympathy or need to stick with one girl..or
    no need to do charity work…Why should we ? We as customer pay the money…she should pay what is eqivalent to it..that all..it is simple SIN Business…

    Every one in this world has reason for their SIN or mistake..including beggers…BMD work is a unwanted work..so if philipinas are to be supported their family means…it is not that only their coutry.have proverty..they have only 90 million population..India and china having 1.1 to 1.5 Bn..in India ..40% are below proverty…90% of the family is with in the strong culture back ground…and never ever sell their body for money even if they do not have anything to eat…!!! In fact they give off their life…not their body and their dicipline..So It is not that phillipinas are the only having proverty and they have to support their family..so we need to support simply by giving more drinks !! not necessary…their life style…their culture background is affected due to colonial period by Spain and then US..!!! it is their way they wanted to live without worling…hard..in the right way..

    Sri Lankan ..Tamils..they have given their life…and all for their rights..there .4 millions peoples are there without food..place to live..dress to exchange ..etc..money but do they sell their body for money..!!! No..

    it is culture..and sociery is so important.. there 10% bad in all the places..all the society…it is accepted as long as with in the tolerance..so need to disucss sex..BMD…pubs…etc..etc like book..theory…experiance..Every one must have one truthful wife…have happy family..kids..live long…be safe..this is life and meaning of life..

    Western style..is different and no need to follow in Asian Side..if we start do that…Then we no need to have wife, kids..father ..mother..family..relations. sociery..Bible..Kuran..and other things..there is no meaning in all..

    No Point in talking much about these girls or so many things…It is just money and Sex..all will lead to cultural damage ..

    Only one thing, we should keep it mind that…we are earning by work hard..if we do not have 1 SGD ..no one will give back to us..If we wanted to do charity..there are many ways we can do it..

    This is Just fun game..I mean go to BMD ..and SIN game..so no need to be sympathy..

    so get back what you are paying for.. !!! thats all..it is fun..at the same we need to Pay for their service..!!! i do not mean that we should not pay !!!why we should have their SIN’s in our account !!!so pay and get what is eqivalent of it !!!that’s all..

    tx,
    RAM

  16. Ram | September 4th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    So Jack can read my message..and i feel that he is right..!!at the same Warren is providing a forum to discuss on good, bad..etc..so that newer can get to know about what is right and wrong..!!First up all we discussing on Bad things..so there may not be good things…!! but caustion is that health..money..and our loved one;s are so important..thant these things…These are extra fun in life once in a while!! Provided if we have more doller !!!…

    thanks..to Jack and warren

  17. Ram | September 5th, 2009 at 5:07 am

    Dear Mr Warren, Do you have any comment on my post?…good ..bad or agree or dis agree..!!!just like to know your feedbak..tx.

  18. warren | September 5th, 2009 at 7:33 am

    Ram I wasn’t expecting a novel on the subject but since you asked for my input ok! You have so much there I will just give my opinion over.

    1. you are not paying for the drink but for her company. like with ANY WOMEN the better you want to get to know them they more you have to spend be it time or cash, right? you want to talk you get a 10 or 20 dollar drink you want to get to her better you pay more.

    2. making money - if i was here a good looking women i’d be a hooker for sure. good money for doing something we all over to do so why not get paid for? why give it away? so for me if that is her choice well so be it no matter where she comes from. if some woman is starving to death and does sell it to by food for herself her or baby, then i think something is wrong.

    3. don’t fool yourself there are hookers in every country, city, town and village in the world the numbers may vary for different reason but they are there. places like china have more women then men in some part so how to hook? oh yeah come to Singapore! India and Sri Lanka, been to Geylang around Lorong 20-18 in the alley way where did they come from??

    4. the sad part of the hooker / bmd question is not the girls but the people that move them from place to place to work there lays the problem, but when you talk big money (which it is) no one wants to put a stop to it and blames the girls and not the traffickers. you really think this girls from the PI or other places have the money to come here for month and stay with logging, food, airfare? hell now so how do they get there, who pays and at what price do the girls have to pay back?

    as you can see you hit on a good point with me. i know the system, the game and the rules to BmD girls. what counts in my book when in the bar is to treat her like i would an other girls given the same opportunity, only difference here s i am paying for it, which is kind of nice because it saves me time in the long run and no head games from the NORMAL girl i meet in some other bar and tried to get lucky with but failed!

    Have a nice weekend and thanks for your thoughts on the subject.

  19. Ram | September 5th, 2009 at 9:21 am

    thanks..We close this thread..I wish to reply say one thing on Point..3…There are 10% of good and bad in all the places..they are not representing the whole Country !!..If Geylang around Lorong 20-18 in from India..am sure..they may not from India..might be Indian Orgin ,have relocated..or could be 10% that I have mentioned..and it is not 90%..!!! Thanks…

  20. Viv | September 14th, 2009 at 12:33 am

    Hmm now I know whta my husband has REALLY been doing in Singapore. He works there every other month, spends money like crazy and now wants a divorce and receives and places to calls to a girl from there several times a day.

  21. Viv | September 14th, 2009 at 12:35 am

    P.S. He hangs out at JJ Atlante on DuxtonRoad

  22. Jack | September 14th, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    Rule of the game
    1. If you plan to go keep in mind that any money you have you, you don’t plan to leave with so when it is all gone you have no one to blame but your self.
    ….My friends from overseas will pay, I will give info only
    2. Understand what the girl’s job is, to get your money!
    ……What about blow job & hand job
    3. Believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear.
    …….Nobody can see much because it is dark & can not hear cause loud music in bar & we are not going there as private investigator.
    4. Don’t feel sorry for anyone, these girls make more then you do in many cases.
    ………I am sorry for revenue department these girls do not pay income tax.
    5. If you make one your girl friend, remember it is just business not personal, she’ll still be leaving with you at the end of the night no matter she was doing with the other 20 guys that night.
    ……..Wow who is maintaining their log book
    6. If you loan someone money, forget about it, you’ll never see it again. You’d be better off trying to working it off in trade. Some for your green for some of her pink, good luck either way!
    ……..I thought that is investment.
    7. If you go, go big or stay home.
    ……….Can not go big in bar the girls will make big, do not be so desperate
    8. They are not around long, most of them so its, “here to day and gone tomorrow “.
    ……….I thought they have work permit
    9. Many will not tell you exactly where they live, management rules.
    ………….I do not want to go for dinner in their house
    And last but not least
    The big number 10 – Sometimes you just get damn lucky and she goes home with you.
    …………Not home lah hotel 81
    Dr. Jack PhD in BMD bars
    From Duxton University (PSC Campus)

  23. Shiv | September 25th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    Good and bad are there everywhere in the world and I feel its not right to compare cultures especially when it comes bar gals. Every cultures is unique and what appears wrong for a person outside the culture might be right for a person inside it. Who are we to judge on them or anyone else???????

  24. warren | September 26th, 2009 at 4:44 am

    Shiv, you lost me with the culture thing and how it applies to buy-me-bars if anything they have so much in common around the world and the other guys you find in them you know are there for the same thing as you, a good time. Language or race makes no differences when you are in the booth in the back in the corner in the dark with your new found friend.

    The only thing to remember is for the BmD girl is her job to get you to spend your cash so don’t get mad at her if she is good at her job and gets all your cash.

  25. Ram | September 26th, 2009 at 9:41 am

    Warren has said correctly…Golden words..

    –The only thing to remember is for the BmD girl is her job to get you to spend your cash so don’t get mad at her if she is good at her job and gets all your cash.

    !!!..So do not lost all your hard earned savings !!! IT lools ..she will be behave like .. she is in high culture (high end profile!!!) and customer is low in culture..(low end Profile!!)..once your cash is drained.!!! so..be fun for what you pay.!!!

  26. Ato | November 28th, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    Ram.
    Originally I’m from India, like you. Everything in life has an up-side and a down-side. In Indian culture we are teached that a woman lurking for men is the worst human being you can ever think of. So they remain virgin and stay away from men until they find a legal husband. In the meantime the only thing for young men to do is to use their right-hand, because it is considered bad to look at women. This culture has created a sexually-frustrated and sick male society. You cannot stop nature and you cannot deny the urges of nature.

  27. j | January 3rd, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    hi warnner r u in singapore wow ur info is very usefull for a person who is getting to know about sg night life.

  28. warren | January 4th, 2010 at 11:46 am

    J thanks a lot

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